Third Party Router Detected

Sebby · Apr 21, 2008, 21:16:06

I've only had my dual SSID 2700 for a couple of hours, but already I've had a bit of an oddity.

I came back to my computer and couldn't get onto any sites - apparently gateway.2wire.net couldn't be found. I checked the router page and everything was fine; I was still connected with the same session as when I set the router up earlier.

After trying and trying, I got a strange 2Wire message saying that a third party router had been detected.

I decided to disconnect and re-connect the PPP session then everything was fine.

Are there any dual SSID experts that can offer an explanation?

Sebby · Apr 21, 2008, 21:21:57

I've managed to find the answer. It seems connecting my mobile phone to the wireless was to blame. For some reason, the 2Wire sees it as a router.

To disable this, go to http://home/xslt?PAGE=J09 and there's a tick box right at the bottom.

kinmel · Apr 21, 2008, 21:24:09

This usually happens when you have 2 routers trying to serve DHCP, but I have also seen it when there is one router and the DHCP settings are confused.

You can disable the warning by unticking the bottom entry on This page

kinmel · Apr 21, 2008, 21:25:39

Quote from: Sebby on Apr 21, 2008, 21:21:57
I've managed to find the answer. It seems connecting my mobile phone to the wireless was to blame. For some reason, the 2Wire sees it as a router.

To disable this, go to http://home/xslt?PAGE=J09 and there's a tick box right at the bottom.

Slow down,, give us a chance to think about it

Sebby · Apr 21, 2008, 21:26:13

Thanks, Alan, that makes things a bit more logical.

I definitely don't have 2 devices trying to serve DHCP. I think it's that I've assigned my PCs static IPs, but other devices (my mobile, for example) I prefer to get one via DHCP (obviously I've ensured that the DHCP range isn't going to conflict with those addresses I've manually assigned).

Sebby · Apr 21, 2008, 21:54:42

Right, it just happened again, but I now know why for definite.

Firstly, the internet doesn't stop working like I said in my first post. What happens is that the router is trying to display the page http://gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=HURL08 but can't because I have the DNS' manually configured in Windows. When I replace gateway.2wire.net with the router's IP, it brings up the page about a third party router being detected. This time, I let it "fix" the problem, and it put my phone's IP into a DMZ plus zone. Obviously I've got to get to the bottom of this (perhaps I should let all my computers be assigned an address via DHCP) but at least I can see where the problem lies.

Simon · Apr 21, 2008, 23:48:13

Sorry, can't help, Seb, as I don't use my phone with mine, and wouldn't have a clue where to start!

Inactive · Apr 21, 2008, 23:52:33

Too many gadgets Seb...keep it simple..

Sebby · Apr 22, 2008, 11:06:01

Simple? That's just boring!

I've solved the problem by giving my phone a static IP too (it's good because you can assign a particular connect an IP whilst letting others remain DHCP).

Gary · Apr 23, 2008, 23:46:47

Quote from: Sebby on Apr 22, 2008, 11:06:01
Simple? That's just boring!

I've solved the problem by giving my phone a static IP too (it's good because you can assign a particular connect an IP whilst letting others remain DHCP).

I had that issue when I usd a 2700 Sebby, and mine was a mobile wifi phone, confused me for a while then did as you did and it was all ok

Sebby · Apr 23, 2008, 23:48:03

Thanks for confirming, Gary.

Lance · Apr 24, 2008, 13:16:08

I used to get this with my N80 (which I DMZed), but don't get it with my N95 8gb...

Sebby · Apr 24, 2008, 13:16:43

I've never really understood DMZ. That's what the 2Wire wanted to do with my phone...

Lance · Apr 24, 2008, 13:25:27

My understanding is that it is a pretty much completely unprotected part of the network, which the router separates from the safe side of the network. I was happy for my phone to be in this area, but wouldn't be for a proper pc!

Gary · Apr 25, 2008, 11:03:22

Quote from: Lance on Apr 24, 2008, 13:16:08
I used to get this with my N80 (which I DMZed), but don't get it with my N95 8gb...

I had it with my Normal N95 but not the 8GB model, I avoided DMZ for protection really and managed to get the firewall working with full protection for the device

g7pkf · Apr 29, 2008, 13:24:08

My wifes laptop just did this.

have manually removed it and got her to rebbot it.

think ill give everything a static ip.

might take a while as i have 32 devices on the network and only 5 static

Sebby · Apr 29, 2008, 13:26:46

Have you tried disabling this "feature", Dean?

g7pkf · Apr 29, 2008, 13:53:18

have now.

will see what happens