Vista vs CoolEdit Pro

[LesD]

Does anyone use CoolEdit Pro?
If so do you have it working is Vista?

My copy of CoolEdit Pro 2.0 has served me well in XP for a number of years and today I have tried to migrate it to Vista Home Premium on my new super-duper flying machine, well the one I have built will some of my brothers cast offs and some new bits of my own.

The rub is despite not being flagged up when I ran the Vista compatibility thing in XP it does not work properly in Vista at the moment.

The issues I am aware of are:

My copy, a version 2.0, installed OK but there was a grumble about some missing dll along the way.
It will play wave files (.wav) but not .wma, which it will in XP.
It won't record because I am unable to adjust the record levels but otherwise it goes through the motiions
At Options - Windows Recording Mixer I get, Cannot find the mixer program "sndvol32 /r"

Having Googled for all I am worth there is plenty to suggest that it can be made to work in Vista but I have not managed to find a step by step guide to how this is achieved.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

P.S. The new machine spec. is attached for the technically minded. 


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[Rik]

Sorry, Les, I can't help with either program or OS.

[Glenn]

Does 2.1 work?

[cavillas]

Have you tried using it in compatability mode?  From Microsoft:

How to start the Program Compatibility Wizard
You can start the Program Compatibility Wizard by Help and Support, to start Program Compatibility Wizard, please follow these steps:
1. Click Start, and click Help and Support item in the start menu.

2. On the Do you want to get the latest online content when you search help? notification window, click Yes button.

3. In the Search Help textbox, type Compatibility, then press ENTER.

4. In the Best 30 results for Compatibility, find and click the Start the Program Compatibility Wizard link.

5. Then the Program Compatibility Wizard starts.


Also, you can start the Program Compatibility Wizard by command, to start Program Compatibility Wizard, please follow these steps:
1. Click Start, and in the Start Search box, type
%systemroot%\System32\mshta.exe res://acprgwiz.dll/compatmode.hta

2. Then the Program Compatibility Wizard starts.


If you want start the Program Compatibility Wizard quickly, you can create a shortcut for the Program Compatibility Wizard,
To create the shortcut, please follow these steps:
1. Create a shortcut, right click on the desktop, then select the New on the pop up menu, then select Shortcut.
2. Then Create Shortcut Wizard shows, in the Type the location of the item box, type
%systemroot%\System32\mshta.exe res://acprgwiz.dll/compatmode.hta
3. Click Next button, then input the name for this shortcut, for example:"Program Compatibility Wizard".
4. Finish the Wizard.

[LesD]

Sorry about the delayed reply Guys,

CoolEdit Version 2.0 works in Vista but in a restricted way. I guess I didn't make myself too clear, probably because I didn't understand what was going on at the time but now I do only too well.

In my quest for answers I found and downloaded CE v2.1 but haven't got round to installing it yet but I know from others that it will have the same shortcoming as v2.0. I also found and downloaded  a sound editor program called MusicEditorFree that is free as it says and does quite a respectable job with Stereo tracks but not multi-tracks. In XP it does what I am used to and expect of CoolEdit but in Vista neither does what I initially expected they would and now I know it is down to the DRM Microsoft have implemented in Vista. Digital Right Management to spell it out in full.

If you have a legitimate wave file of your own and play it with a media player of any description that I have at my disposal you cannot record it with CE or even the basic Windows (Vista) sound recorder!   

Chapter and verse is here at The Register and from way back in 2006. I knew in the back of my mind that I didn't want Vista but in my absent mindedness I let my brother, an advocate of this particular OS, talk me into giving it a try.

As I said to him the other evening Vista takes to C out of PC and put a P in its place.
With Vista you no longer have a Computer simply a Program Platform to run Microsoft Programs on and programs that MS condescend to permit you to run! OK it has a few likeable Desktop feature, a lot of gimmicky stuff and Access Control levels (Permissions) to compete with Windows Sever 2003 that we run on the HP Proliant Sever at work. Who needs or wants this at home? Certainly not me the User, who finds that what he has been used to being able to do with the last 4 or 5 generations of Windows before Vista being severely curtailed in this latest offering.

I have built a new machine spent my money on Vista and for the learning experience it continues to be worth it I guess as it counts in some way for me as a pastime/hobby but I have my XP Pro box sat next to this new one and at the press of the KVM switch I can return to what is a properly functioning Computer that I choose what to do without without others imposing constraints and limitations on what I can and cannot do.

I have a fear now that one day one of Microsoft's KBxxxxxxx updates will come along and DRM will be imposed on XP! 
Still I suppose I could reinstall and update to just before such a patch and live without further updates after that.

Has anybody else tried making the Hidden System Files visible and encountered all the Access denied you don't have the necessary permissions on things like the links to My Documents My Pictures My Music etc! This with an Administrator User Account into the bargain. I have discovered that there is an Administrator level, a Super Administrator described as like the UNIX root account that if you know the way you can get into to get access to these places. Just what every home user need and wants! 

BTW I was interested to learn that you have to turn Compatibility Mode on. I had tried a right mouse click and didn't see it offered in the way 95/98 Compatibility was in XP so I have stored this information, hopefully in a not too volatile bit of my memory. 

[LesD]

Here is an update that I can post to help other suffers with CoolEdit Pro in Vista.

http://www.roemersoftware.com/vista-recording-problem.html

You may have heard of XP super-hidden files but not only does Vista have super-hidden files it has Super-Hidden Audio Sliders too!   

If anyone can now tell me how to make CEP see my CD/DVD drives at:
File - Extract Audio from CD - Devices (a simple fundamental function that Vista seems to screw up on) I would be grateful.   

[LesD]

For the record:

I have updated my CEP from version 2.0 to 2.1 but at File - Extract Audio from CD the Devices still don't show. I can use File - Open and see the optical drives OK so it is a puzzle.

I have confirmed that the Devices do show OK in XP Pro because this was not a feature of CEP that I used having a preference CDex for this particular purpose.  From this link I downloaded and installed CDex v1.7 Beta and have found it works just fine in Vista.

I have been running v1.51 in XP for a long time with no issues.

So with CDex to complement CEP using the hidden Stereo Mix Sliders I think there is life yet for CEP in Vista.

I cannot understand why MS have chosen to make this facility so difficult to use in Vista when it was simplicity itself in XP.

[MoHux]

Or conversely ............ why haven't the software people upgraded their software to run in Vista??

Much easier to do, I would think?

Mo

[LesD]

Or conversely ............ why haven't the software people upgraded their software to run in Vista??

CoolEdit Pro was bought out by Adobe and released in a watered down form by all accounts as Adobe Audition. I have read that there is a version of AA that is Vista compatible but that there are issues with it.

Now I have most of the CoolEdit Pro functionality restored I shall stick with it.