Latency issue today

Started by zappaDPJ, Oct 25, 2008, 19:25:48

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zappaDPJ

My latency in the last 24 hours has been steadily rising. One of the services I regularly connect to is reporting a constant 450ms instead of the usual 50-125ms (at peek).

Pings to Jolt which are normally around 50ms are also very high:

C:\Users\zappaDPJ>ping www.jolt.co.uk

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=124ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=126ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 121ms, Maximum = 126ms, Average = 123ms

C:\Users\zappaDPJ>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2   211 ms   133 ms   136 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  3   141 ms   152 ms   139 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

  4   123 ms   151 ms   134 ms  te2-3.cr05.hx2.bb.gxn.net [193.203.5.14]
  5   131 ms   125 ms   121 ms  vl3953.cr05.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.137.29]
  6   149 ms   158 ms   146 ms  gi1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.140.142]
  7   123 ms   124 ms   127 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
  8   118 ms   112 ms   114 ms  secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\zappaDPJ>


Nothing has changed at my end and there are no announcements on the IDNet main site. I've rebooted the modem/router but the high pings remain.

Connection Speed 7968 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 26.0 db 12.5 db
Noise Margin 6.3 db 22.0 db


This speed test result doesn't look too bad:

Speed Down 5177.67 Kbps ( 5.1 Mbps )
Speed Up 369.72 Kbps ( 0.4 Mbps )


Is anyone else having problems?

zap
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VaderDSL

Getting horrible latency issues here myself also.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings > ping www.jolt.co.uk

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=126ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 126ms, Maximum = 131ms, Average = 128ms

C:\Documents and Settings > tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  linksys [192.168.2.1]
  2   126 ms   142 ms   127 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  3   133 ms   130 ms   131 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
  4   127 ms   134 ms   124 ms  te2-3.cr05.hx2.bb.gxn.net [193.203.5.14]
  5   134 ms   126 ms   130 ms  vl3953.cr05.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.137.29]
  6   120 ms   116 ms   116 ms  gi1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.140.142]
  7   118 ms   118 ms   126 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
  8   126 ms   124 ms   124 ms  secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

davej99

Ditto 25-10-08 20.12hrs

Tracert (Normally circa 28ms interleaved)
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2   142 ms   144 ms   159 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  3   161 ms   150 ms   150 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

  4   144 ms   143 ms   155 ms  rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
  5   154 ms   138 ms   145 ms  212.58.238.149
  6   139 ms   144 ms   328 ms  212.58.239.62
  7   134 ms   139 ms   133 ms  www-vip.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.251.195]

BT Speedtest (Normally 6500-6700)
   Your DSL connection rate: 8128 kbps(DOWN-STREAM),  448 kbps(UP-STREAM)
   IP profile for your line is - 7150 kbps
   Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 2408 kbps

Connection (Normal)
   Connection Rate:  8128 Kbps
   Line Attenuation: 37 dB
   Noise Margin:     10 dB

Steve

Mines interleaved and o.k

C:\Documents and Settings\Steve>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    80 ms    31 ms    31 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
  3    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

  4    33 ms    32 ms    31 ms  te2-3.cr05.hx2.bb.gxn.net [193.203.5.14]
  5     *       42 ms    31 ms  vl3952.cr05.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.137.9]
  6    36 ms    33 ms    32 ms  gi2-48-5.ar01.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.140.14]
  7    32 ms    31 ms    32 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
  8    32 ms    35 ms    32 ms  secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Steve>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.253.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    32 ms    49 ms    32 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
  3   266 ms    33 ms    31 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

  4    33 ms    32 ms    32 ms  rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
  5    32 ms    33 ms    33 ms  212.58.238.149
  6    37 ms    33 ms    32 ms  te12-1.hsw1.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.234]
  7    34 ms    36 ms    34 ms  www-vip.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67]

Trace complete.

Steve
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davej99

Problem posts are on telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51].
Steve is on telehouse-gw2-lo2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]

Dave

zappaDPJ

Well spotted. I'll give support a ring first thing Monday morning.

Thanks for the replies :)
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Sebby

It seems that a couple of users have been experiencing this. It's good that you seemed to have narrowed it down, so definitely let IDNet know and hopefully they can look into it and get it sorted. :)

zappaDPJ

Further problems as you can see from my modem log (assuming I'm interpreting things correctly) I'm losing sync. I'm also having massive timeouts (lag spikes).

Sun, 2008-10-26 00:04:18 - LCP down.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:04:20 - Initialize LCP.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:04:20 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:04:55 - CHAP authentication success
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:46:21 - LCP down.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:46:29 - Initialize LCP.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:46:29 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:46:43 - Administrator login successful - IP:
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:02 - Initialize LCP.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:02 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:22 - LCP down.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:37 - Initialize LCP.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:37 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:45 - LCP down.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:53 - Initialize LCP.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:47:53 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sun, 2008-10-26 00:48:26 - CHAP authentication success


However the latency issues have gone at this moment in time ???


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\zappaDPJ>ping www.jolt.co.uk

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 13ms

C:\Users\zappaDPJ>
zap
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Rik

The sync drops are 99% certain to be local. Looking at the timing, I'd say BT were working on your exchange.
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davej99

Pings seem back to the recent interleaved baseline for my telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net connection, but not to the 20s that I used to enjoy. Need to run PingGraph at length to see if I still get episodes over 100+.  :o

BT speedtest is on the upper bumpstop. Yesterday's spread of degradation could hardly be exchange contention.

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    43 ms    42 ms    42 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  3    45 ms    43 ms    43 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
  4    44 ms    45 ms    43 ms  rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
  5    45 ms    49 ms    44 ms  212.58.238.149
  6    43 ms    44 ms    46 ms  212.58.239.62
  7    44 ms    43 ms    46 ms  www-vip.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.251.195]

Your DSL connection rate: 8128 kbps(DOWN-STREAM),  448 kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP profile for your line is - 7150 kbps
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 6745 kbps

Dave

Rik

Has anyone contacted IDNet?
Rik
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zappaDPJ

I haven't Rik, I wanted to do some more testing today and I thought I'd wait until Monday as I'm a little uncertain of what level of support is available over the weekend. Would you suggest I call them today?
zap
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Rik

I wouldn't suggest calling, but an email - it will get picked up Monday morning as it wouldn't be considered an emergency. It would be worth pointing to this thread.
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zappaDPJ

I'll do that now, thanks  :) :thumb:
zap
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Rik

Rik
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zappaDPJ

Just a quick note to say IDNet support were unable to identify any problems and that things do indeed seem to be back to normal after the weekend.


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\speedup>trace rt www.jolt.co.UK

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.UK [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    21 ms    21 ms    20 ms  telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  3    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]

  4    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  te2-3.cr05.hx2.bb.gxn.net [193.203.5.14]
  5    22 ms    21 ms    21 ms  vl3953.cr05.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.137.29]
  6    21 ms    22 ms    22 ms  gi1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.140.142]
  7    23 ms    21 ms    21 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
  8    22 ms    23 ms    23 ms  secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\zappaDPJ>ping www.jolt.co.UK

Pinging www.jolt.co.UK [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milliseconds:
    Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 20ms

C:\Users\speedup>


I hope things are back to normal for the rest of you.
zap
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Rik

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