Some cannot even get 2Mb/s

john · Feb 26, 2009, 12:38:55

Rik · Feb 26, 2009, 12:45:04

Nice to see we warrant a mention.

Sebby · Feb 26, 2009, 13:19:29

The UK only struggles because of the ageing network. It reminds me of the Underground. It's old and obsolete, and needs a complete overhaul, not quick and sloppy repairs.

Rik · Feb 26, 2009, 14:24:24

Same with the sewers in London, Seb.

Lance · Feb 26, 2009, 16:00:27

For which, outside the building I'm stood in at this very moment, work is being done to replace!

Rik · Feb 26, 2009, 16:02:04

I hope you brought a peg for your nose, Lance.

Lance · Feb 26, 2009, 16:05:13

Sebby · Feb 26, 2009, 23:11:23

esh · Feb 27, 2009, 12:18:35

The DSL line in the rented house I occasionally stay at in coventry can't get 2Mbps and goes down on average 3.5 times a day. The exchange is absolutely shocking.

Rik · Feb 27, 2009, 12:20:21

Can you tamper with the internal phone wiring?

netn00b · Mar 05, 2009, 08:47:43

i'm unfortunately one of the struggling ones who can't even get 2mb

so roll on BT investing in new quality infrastructure that will hopefully give me the choice/chance to have a better service.

Gary · Mar 05, 2009, 09:44:02

I see new builds will get fibre to the house and everyone else will get fibre to the box, mines only 400 yards from me, but our exchange is so small I cannot see it being upgraded with even ISP's LLU set ups its all BT here, Im lucky to sync at 8128 at get a good throughput, but by the time they upgrade our lines I'll have problems finding the pc let alone using it, age does bad things to your memory

cavillas · Mar 05, 2009, 09:52:33

It stems back to Worlds War 2. Most of Europe had to rebuild the majority of its infrastructure from scratch, this country carried on with what it had and just built on top of it without modernising the base structures. This legacy is what causes most of our porblems today.

Yes, it's time we rebuilt from scratch and maybe we now can with BT being given the go-ahead for installing Fibre to the box. As usual, though, it will only be the big conuurbations that will benefit and the rural and smaller places will lag behind so causing a totally unfair situation again.

Gary · Mar 05, 2009, 09:57:10

Quote from: cavillas on Mar 05, 2009, 09:52:33
It stems back to Worlds War 2. Most of Europe had to rebuild the majority of its infrastructure from scratch, this country carried on with what it had and just built on top of it without modernising the base structures. This legacy is what causes most of our porblems today.

Yes, it's time we rebuilt from scratch and maybe we now can with BT being given the go-ahead for installing Fibre to the box. As usual, though, it will only be the big conuurbations that will benefit and the rural and smaller places will lag behind so causing a totally unfair situation again.

You would think they would upgrade the small exchanges this time around so making a more balanced scenario for high speed to small exchanges like mine in very rural areas, then upgrade the bigger ones, but money is the key as always so areas where people will pay maybe £50 a month on mass to get 40-100mbs is of course the ideal way to pull back the outlay for them

talos · Mar 05, 2009, 10:54:09

In rural areas like where we live it's just not going to happen, for one simple reason cost, to bury a cable into 10 miles of road just to serve two or three homes is simply not cost effective. The only way as I see it is to go wireless, one cable to an antenna transmitting over 30 sq miles might just be feasible.

Gary · Mar 05, 2009, 11:02:12

Quote from: talos on Mar 05, 2009, 10:54:09
In rural areas like where we live it's just not going to happen, for one simple reason cost, to bury a cable into 10 miles of road just to serve two or three homes is simply not cost effective. The only way as I see it is to go wireless, one cable to an antenna transmitting over 30 sq miles might just be feasible.

There is a company doing that here talos, Kijoma. You can get 13mbs down and about 2 up but after sending loads of emails to them with no reply, and seeing the cost of roof top aerials for them it just seemed not worth it

talos · Mar 05, 2009, 11:50:54

I think we need someone with the clout of BT to take on something as big as this. The private companies will only "cherry pick" the more lucrative like industrial estates etc.

Rik · Mar 05, 2009, 11:55:24

We need the Govt to lay down a statutory requirement, Bob, and then fund it.

john · Mar 05, 2009, 12:40:36

Quote from: talos on Mar 05, 2009, 10:54:09
In rural areas like where we live it's just not going to happen, for one simple reason cost, to bury a cable into 10 miles of road just to serve two or three homes is simply not cost effective. The only way as I see it is to go wireless, one cable to an antenna transmitting over 30 sq miles might just be feasible.

Quote from: Gary on Mar 05, 2009, 11:02:12
There is a company doing that here talos, Kijoma. You can get 13mbs down and about 2 up but after sending loads of emails to them with no reply, and seeing the cost of roof top aerials for them it just seemed not worth it

I agree regarding the wireless connections but maybe the high cost is because it's only being done on a relatively small scale and they have little or no competition.

talos · Mar 05, 2009, 13:23:31

I had a look on Kijoma website, it appears they only cover a part of London, and a very small part at that, we tend to be the forgotten part of the Uk over here in Wales

zappaDPJ · Mar 05, 2009, 17:47:36

Quote from: Rik on Mar 05, 2009, 11:55:24
We need the Govt to lay down a statutory requirement, Bob, and then fund it.

I couldn't agree more. The Internet has become so fundamentally important to everyone it is essential that the government wakes up and does something about our country's antiquated infrastructure.

Rik · Mar 05, 2009, 17:49:12

Including sewers and water mains.