Karma..Yes...No..Don't care?

RJM · Feb 23, 2007, 10:06:21

How come some people have got more "stars" than me?

Why, couldn't I have been allocated five when I joined?

Life is just so unfair.

stevelondon · Feb 23, 2007, 10:12:39

"giggles"

Inactive · Feb 23, 2007, 10:19:31

Quote from: RJM on Feb 23, 2007, 10:06:21
How come some people have got more "stars" than me?

Why, couldn't I have been allocated five when I joined?

Life is just so unfair.

As far as I remember, you only need to make one more post and you will have 5 stars.. as if it mattered.

Nerval · Feb 23, 2007, 10:24:32

Quote from: Inactive on Feb 23, 2007, 10:19:31
5 stars.. as if it mattered.

that's easy for you to say cos you've already got 5 stars.
Try saying that if you've only got 4

RJM · Feb 23, 2007, 10:28:35

Look, I have got them!!

Somebody must have read my story and upgraded me!

I feel happy now.

Inactive · Feb 23, 2007, 10:28:59

Quote from: Nerval on Feb 23, 2007, 10:24:32
that's easy for you to say cos you've already got 5 stars.
Try saying that if you've only got 4

Have a K ... drat it.

No Round the World Trip for you now Nerv..

Adam · Feb 23, 2007, 10:30:28

Lets try to keep this thread on topic if possible.

Adam

Nerval · Feb 23, 2007, 10:32:33

Quote from: RJM on Feb 23, 2007, 10:28:35
Somebody must have read my story and upgraded me!

Come clean now, you PM'd the mod and complained

Next thing, we'll all have the stars taken away in the interest of fairness and equality.
And perhaps I should have to wear gloves to stop me typing so fast.

ps I think we're being moderated now!!

RJM · Feb 23, 2007, 10:35:02

Nerval,

I couldn't possibly comment.

Inactive · Feb 23, 2007, 10:35:23

Quote from: Adam on Feb 23, 2007, 10:30:28
Lets try to keep this thread on topic if possible.

Adam

Being quite blunt Adam, the thread was on topic until your intervention.

Adam · Feb 23, 2007, 10:38:34

Quote from: Inactive on Feb 23, 2007, 10:35:23
Being quite blunt Adam, the thread was on topic until your intervention.

Correct me if I am indeed wrong, but I do not believe the original thread was referring to mocking of any users who complained by starting a similar mocking discussion about the amount of "stars" one has.

Adam

Inactive · Feb 23, 2007, 10:51:12

Quote from: Adam on Feb 23, 2007, 10:38:34
Correct me if I am indeed wrong, but I do not believe the original thread was referring to mocking of any users who complained by starting a similar mocking discussion about the amount of "stars" one has.

Adam

That isn't what I meant Adam, until your first intervention on this thread, the topic was on course, however your decision to intervene and alter the polling method, just threw the whole thread off course.

That was despite my original request to just vote on the thread, which you ignored.

Adam · Feb 23, 2007, 10:54:30

Quote from: Inactive on Feb 23, 2007, 10:51:12
That was despite my original request to just vote on the thread, which you ignored.

I do apologise I did not notice any such request. I was attempting to create a format of poll that makes the result easily viewable. If I had of noticed your request I would of started a new thread. One again, I apologise for missing it.

Adam

maxping · Feb 23, 2007, 19:49:56

Quote from: Nerval on Feb 23, 2007, 08:08:25

Didn't I read that Max had a spell of heavy karma removal, but just laughed and carried on?

I forgot about that i got nailed,the worse thing was i couldn't pay anyone back as i was not allowed to use the system

maxping · Feb 23, 2007, 19:52:47

Quote from: Inactive on Feb 23, 2007, 09:43:17
Ditto Steve, the bit that really miffs me is the way that some members have gone via the PM / email? route to the Moderator/s, instead of discussing the issue on open forum.

Oh well.

Are you surprised having read some of the comments in this thread.

I will hold my hand up and say i agreed with the users that complained about the system but i was not one of them,this is not the first time the Karma system has been discussed because of the abuse.
As i said earlier some see it as a bit of fun and some take it seriously,i think the poll shows this clearly,it would have been interesting to see the result had there only been a yes & no option.

stevelondon · Feb 23, 2007, 20:51:51

For cying out loud i can't believe the trouble because of karmas someone complains because some was taken away and caused all this palava its a karma for gods sake i for one will not be commenting on this any more i have more things to worry about i hope whoever caused this nonsense (on a usual good fun forum) and sitting back watching the sparks fly is proud of themselves. i am gonna carry on posting on other things

Thanks to Inactive for the poll.

jupiter · Feb 23, 2007, 21:00:33

How ironic that a system of karma appears to be causing so much heat.

The easiest explanation to find via Google says:
"Karma is a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. Karma is not about retribution, vengeance, punishment or reward, karma simply deals with what is."

So it wasn't really 'karma' at all.

For what it is worth, it seemed a bit predictable to me - people who post the most tend to get the most karmas - surprise surprise. Mostly they got slapped on for very little reason so far as one could see. And if it was a bit of fun, as some have said, how long does it stay funny for? Not half as funny as some of the jokes people post.

So, as teenager Kevin would say "What is the point?"

Inactive · Feb 23, 2007, 22:47:51

Quote from: jupiter on Feb 23, 2007, 21:00:33

For what it is worth, it seemed a bit predictable to me - people who post the most tend to get the most karmas - surprise surprise.

But, that isn't how things were panning out jupiter, and I suspect you may well have touched on the real reason for the intervention.

Some members had quite large volumes of posts, and relatively few Karma. I cannot recall which members they were though.

Anyway the real rub for me was the very fact that some members in what I thought was a warm friendly little community, would go to the extremes of contacting Mods to get things changed because they obviously thought they were being hard done by.

I also didn't appreciate the way this was handled, I think it should have been discussed openly on the forum, not by some arbitrary decision being thrust upon us without any form of notice, or even announcement.

That is my take on the situation.

mrapoc · Feb 24, 2007, 11:23:07

I couldnt care less

Although it would be better if it were like http://forum.overclock3d.net where each point would need a valid reason and would be limited to only one per day (or something)

But then again I couldnt care less

They are only numbers, right?

Adam · Feb 27, 2007, 21:22:28

First I would like to say thank you to all that voted in this poll, your feedback is much appreciated.

As for the decision we have reached regarding karma; you may well notice karma is now visible once again. There has been a change to the way it works however; the karma system now requires you to enter a reason for your action, I think this is a fair compromise after reviewing the poll results and feedback.

The system was originally removed at the speed it was for karma sniping, as I have stated before. I do hope any users involved could refrain from this in the future as karma changes will be monitored.

If you have any comments regarding this decision feel free to contact me via PM.

Adam

stevelondon · Feb 27, 2007, 21:27:06

Oh well as long as Riks happy after all it was Rik that got them suspended in the first place.

Adam · Feb 27, 2007, 21:29:34

That is not strictly true, and what matters is the community opinion.

Adam

stevelondon · Feb 27, 2007, 21:38:45

I dont particularly care Adam i won't be visiting that often anymore not after whats gone on these last few days its a shame its come to this and it all says it in your answer "Not strictly true" it was no doubt Riks decision to lock Nervals account or the better word ban and all the locked threads i wonder who was responsible for that dont tell me Rik strange how someone can cause so much trouble in 4 days anyway good luck and no offense to you Adam.

Lance · Feb 27, 2007, 23:07:38

Thanks for bringing the karma back Adam!

Inactive · Feb 27, 2007, 23:33:48

Quote from: lance on Feb 27, 2007, 23:07:38
Thanks for bringing the karma back Adam!

Surely it wasn't Adam that bought back the Karma, it was the majority YES vote.

Thanks to everyone that took part in the vote, unfortunately I am unable to see who voted which way, however you wouldn't need to be Einstein to work things out..

Anyway my thanks to Adam for putting the mechanics in to situ.