FTTP pricing

pctech · Oct 02, 2010, 19:37:24

I just wondered if anyone from IDNet could give me a ball park figure in terms of monthly subscription for the FTTP service?

Simon · Oct 02, 2010, 19:41:21

Sorry, not sure what you mean, Mitch. Is it not on the website?

pctech · Oct 02, 2010, 19:48:10

Hi Simon.

As you may or may not be aware in MK BT are currently trialling Fibre To The Premises, this extends the fibre all the way from the exchange to the end user rather than a cabinet.

I'd expect because of this it'd be a bit pricier than FTTC but have asked Zen and a couple of other ISPs that are taking part and noone can give me an idea of what the charges would be although I'd be expected to commit to 12 months,.

Apparently BT are currently providing the links free to the ISPs but of course this will only happen until the end of the trial.

Rik · Oct 02, 2010, 19:48:54

IDNet may not be trialling FTTP, Mitch.

Simon · Oct 02, 2010, 20:02:22

Sorry, misread your post, Mitch. Eyes saw FTTP, brain read FTTC.

pctech · Oct 02, 2010, 20:09:48

No probs, but of a pain if not.

Zen are supposedly but I keep getting conflicting information.

AAISP seem to be most on the ball but they cant give me an answer either.

zappaDPJ · Oct 02, 2010, 20:51:11

AFAIK there are no prices as such because it's still on a very limited trial (5 customers per exchange for each ISP invited to take part). Plusnet were the first to start rolling it out back in late July I think and at that time is was limited to 2 exchanges.

I suspect from what I've read it could be hellishly expensive to install or that the cost might be absorbed into monthly charges which are likely to be steep. Every job I've heard about has taken at least 8 hours to install, sometimes a lot longer and involving a number of engineers.

I do know of someone on the Highams Park exchange who has it and I've seen the results. 92Mbps down, 15Mbps up and 7ms latency. Very nice!

pctech · Oct 02, 2010, 22:25:23

I'm on one of the exchanges thats had the new fibre 'headends' installed and according to the BTW DSL checker I can get it which is why I am enquiring.

esh · Oct 02, 2010, 22:51:17

What's limiting the 15M upband? ISP/BT?

pctech · Oct 03, 2010, 11:25:08

Are you referring to FTTP?

FritzBox · Mar 16, 2012, 18:24:14

Any more info as to pricing. Not necessarily idNet, just generally

pctech · Mar 16, 2012, 19:09:01

BT Retail and Zen have it clocked up at a base price of about 35 quid plus line rental which is the same as FTTC.

Not sure whether this has now changed but did read that Openreach were deploying FTTC where FTTP wasn't economically viable.

FritzBox · Mar 17, 2012, 09:27:34

Quote from: pctech on Mar 16, 2012, 19:09:01
BT Retail and Zen have it clocked up at a base price of about 35 quid plus line rental which is the same as FTTC.

Not sure whether this has now changed but did read that Openreach were deploying FTTC where FTTP wasn't economically viable.

Thanks. I'm not going to need a phone line with FTTP though am I?

Steve · Mar 17, 2012, 09:32:17

I'm not sure about that.

http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity/Infinity-FTTP-no-phone-line/td-p/402091

FritzBox · Mar 17, 2012, 10:19:57

Quote from: Steve on Mar 17, 2012, 09:32:17
I'm not sure about that.

http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity/Infinity-FTTP-no-phone-line/td-p/402091

I have a BT phone line currently, but I won't be ordering the FTTP through them, I will use my current ISP. So the plan is to get it all installed then cancel the phone line and just use VOIP

Have a mobile if I want to ring 999 and the BB is down

pctech · Mar 17, 2012, 12:33:43

If it is a legal requirement then your ISP is unlikely to be able to ask Openreach to deactivate the PSTN line, remember that they are just a customer of Wholesale.

Might be worth hanging on a bit longer, I'm waiting for the price to come down a bit.

FritzBox · Mar 17, 2012, 13:48:31

Quote from: pctech on Mar 17, 2012, 12:33:43
If it is a legal requirement then your ISP is unlikely to be able to ask Openreach to deactivate the PSTN line, remember that they are just a customer of Wholesale.

Might be worth hanging on a bit longer, I'm waiting for the price to come down a bit.

We pay BT directly for the phone line it's not a bundle with my ISP, the BB is totally separate. I'm hoping once the FTTP is installed via my ISP then we can contact BT and cancel the phone line, hopefully it will be a case of left hand right hand and they won't realise we have fibre installed.

How an earth can it be legal for BT to force someone to pay for something that they no longer need or will be using, especially when I could go to Virgin and get FTTP as a stand alone service, then BT wouldn't see any of my cash.
I don't want to do that as I'm loyal to my ISP and really want to stay with him

Am hoping this guy could be right from the linky that Steve gave

QuoteYou can get FTTP without the phone line, however its just not in BT Retail's portfolio, however there are other suppliers on the market who might offer this service.