BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech

Started by Simon, Oct 26, 2010, 21:58:32

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BT says consumers and online services might need to upgrade their hardware if end users are to fully benefit from next-generation superfast broadband.

Showing off a 100Mbits/sec, Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) trial in Milton Keynes, BT representatives and engineers explained that pilot customers were sometimes confused when the new fibre connections appeared to be delivering speeds below expectations.

BT said that these next-generation connections - not the standard Fibre to the Cabinet or copper services rolled out to most users - are so fast that the bottleneck is not always on the network but could be in consumer hardware.

Read more: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/362245/bt-superfast-broadband-held-back-by-home-tech
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esh

People who don't really know the full technical details don't experience full potential of technology!? News at 11! Mostly this is due to the extremely cheap influx of home 'routers' since 2000 that have very weak processors but have done the job fine. But short of your router, what is there to truly hold it back? Is anyone still using 10M grade ethernet cable? Really? I doubt it (apart from where the last place I worked at, cough). Hard drives? They'll do 300Mbit/sec fairly easily unless it's a bottom end drive from a decade ago.

Or you certainly won't experience 100Mbit with the packet loss a few FTTC people here have had...
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Steve

Still not moving to MK even though my FTTC has been put back 6 months . >:D
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Simon

There's a place there that does great food!  ;)
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Steve

You mean that there is ever some left over? Somehow I doubt it. >:D
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Glenn

Simon was talking about the chippy, Mitch recommended.  ;D
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Lance

In answer to your question, esh, we still have loads of 10mb switches at work. Oddly enough, that is BT's fault as they didn't complete the network infrastructure update they were meant to when managing our IT.
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esh

10M switches? Fantastic. Do they have coaxial ports as well?
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Rik

Quote from: Steve on Oct 26, 2010, 22:15:45
You mean that there is ever some left over? Somehow I doubt it. >:D

We always make sure there's enough if we know in advance. ;D
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Rik

We need gigabit routers with serious amounts of processing power...
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esh

Quad core routers with liquid nitrogen cooling! Where does it end!?
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Rik

When we all have air-conditioned equipment rooms. ;)
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Lance

Quote from: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 09:15:53
10M switches? Fantastic. Do they have coaxial ports as well?

Fortunately not. Now we've brought IT back in house, we are spending approx £500k on upgrading all of the lan infrastructure.
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Rik

So now you know where your council tax goes, folks. ;)
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esh

I suggest you upgrade to ....11M switches and pocket the rest of the cash!
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Technical Ben

Quote from: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 20:54:22
I suggest you upgrade to ....11M switches and pocket the rest of the cash!
No, upgrade to full 100mb or gigabit ones. Then limit it to 11mb, and get them to pay you to upgrade it again to 12mb in a few weeks. They will see real world increases too. :thumb:
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Bill

Quote from: Technical Ben on Oct 28, 2010, 21:31:18
No, upgrade to full 100mb or gigabit ones. Then limit it to 11mb, and get them to pay you to upgrade it again to 12mb in a few weeks. They will see real world increases too. :thumb:

You sound like me when I was in electronics/software design... produce what you know the customer actually needs, then limit it to what he asked for.

That way it's much easier to upgrade when they realise their mistakes ;D
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Technical Ben

Almost the opposite of BT... Tell the customer they need 100mb broadband, deliver 1mb...  :bawl:
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pctech

Did you know that the Amsterdam Internet Exchange which IDNet is connncted to I believe has integrated Glimmerglass photonic switches into its network.

http://ams-ix.net/infrastructure-detail/

http://www.glimmerglass.com

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pctech

Need to persaude IDNet to put a few in but probably won't be cheap.


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