My Android won't make calls

D-Dan · Jan 16, 2011, 02:15:28

Hardly surprising since I installed Android OS onto a VM on my PC, just to see what the fuss is about.

Anyone recommend any good apps?

Steve

Technical Ben · Jan 16, 2011, 13:06:58

You could probably go one further and ditch the VM for a full boot of the os? Although not sure if it works like that yet.

D-Dan · Jan 16, 2011, 14:10:43

I'm sure it would work, but it wouldn't be pleasant. Bear in mind it's designed for a phone or touch screen. Doesn't respond to the mouse and only half the keyboard works.

Steve

Technical Ben · Jan 16, 2011, 23:30:31

Hope Googles OS is a lot better then.

D-Dan · Jan 17, 2011, 00:05:19

I tried Google's pre-release (ChromeOS), again in a VM, and to be honest I hated it. I can see some people liking the simplicity, but I prefer to have control. Not to mention that I quite simply do not trust the whole "cloud" idea. I want my data and applications safe and sound on my own HD, where I know where they are and what they are doing.

Steve

Lance · Jan 17, 2011, 07:56:10

Cloud is the long term weather forecast, with many large businesses talking about it if not already doing it.

Simon · Jan 17, 2011, 10:03:53

Trouble with clouds is, they make it rain.

Technical Ben · Jan 18, 2011, 06:42:33

Quote from: Lance on Jan 17, 2011, 07:56:10
Cloud is the long term weather forecast, with many large businesses talking about it if not already doing it.

Most businesses HAVE been doing it for the last 20 years. That is what is so funny about the term.
I might try and invent an "Connectanet" where you have a set of computers linked, sharing data. These will be remote, and use a telecoms industry. But because mine is called a "connectanet" it's got to be a great investment for businesses!

Rose by any other...

Gary · Jan 18, 2011, 09:36:12

Quote from: D-Dan on Jan 17, 2011, 00:05:19
I tried Google's pre-release (ChromeOS), again in a VM, and to be honest I hated it. I can see some people liking the simplicity, but I prefer to have control. Not to mention that I quite simply do not trust the whole "cloud" idea. I want my data and applications safe and sound on my own HD, where I know where they are and what they are doing.

Steve

I have to say I would prefer my apps not on my HD where I have to keep updating them security wise, for many peeps using a PC its a nightmare, Secunia helps with its program but how many people even know what Secunia is? Cloud based computing would take the focus of keeping apps and programs up to date from bewildered users and maybe if it works make the pc you use a tad safer..maybe...

pctech · Jan 18, 2011, 14:36:17

I don't want to have to pay a subscription to use hardware I own.

pctech · Jan 18, 2011, 14:37:58

Quote from: Technical Ben on Jan 18, 2011, 06:42:33
Most businesses HAVE been doing it for the last 20 years. That is what is so funny about the term.
I might try and invent an "Connectanet" where you have a set of computers linked, sharing data. These will be remote, and use a telecoms industry. But because mine is called a "connectanet" it's got to be a great investment for businesses!

Rose by any other...

There is an amusing clip which I'll find later where Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle) really takes the p*** out of the term cloud computing.

Rik · Jan 18, 2011, 15:42:54

Does it relate to cuckoo land?

Rik · Jan 18, 2011, 15:43:17

Quote from: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 14:36:17
I don't want to have to pay a subscription to use hardware I own.

Sky+ owners are used to it.

D-Dan · Jan 18, 2011, 16:42:03

Not to mention that if all your apps are "in the cloud" and your internet goes down, you have an expensive door stop on your desk.

Steve

D-Dan · Jan 18, 2011, 16:42:56

Quote from: Gary on Jan 18, 2011, 09:36:12
I have to say I would prefer my apps not on my HD where I have to keep updating them security wise, for many peeps using a PC its a nightmare, Secunia helps with its program but how many people even know what Secunia is? Cloud based computing would take the focus of keeping apps and programs up to date from bewildered users and maybe if it works make the pc you use a tad safer..maybe...

Linux - ahem.

Steve

pctech · Jan 18, 2011, 16:45:22

Quote from: Rik on Jan 18, 2011, 15:43:17
Sky+ owners are used to it.

Well they will pay Murdoch.

pctech · Jan 18, 2011, 16:46:42

Though that equally applies to routers and telephones of course.

Rik · Jan 18, 2011, 16:52:42

Quote from: pctech on Jan 18, 2011, 16:45:22
Well they will pay Murdoch.

There's little choice if you want Sky+ to work, Mitch, yet you own the hardware which is capable of recording.

Technical Ben · Jan 18, 2011, 18:58:57

I kind of agree Steve. But in priciple, you know Google will just have downloaded apps, with the same viruses ect getting on the pc. As they will never adopt the real "cloud" based applications. So your pc is still at risk when they take a shortcut and have a user based program.

pctech · Jan 19, 2011, 17:31:24

Here is that Larry Ellison clip I mentioned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYa6gQC14o

Rik · Jan 19, 2011, 17:39:53

Terrible sound quality, but I have to agree with him, Mitch.

pctech · Jan 19, 2011, 17:45:38

All the versions have bad sounds but yes I agreee too.

Wish his company made better products though or should I say acquired better products, have to use two of them at work which are Java based and will only work with a specific build of Java which is now old, install the latest version and they simply won't boot up at all.

Rik · Jan 19, 2011, 17:47:20

Not a good idea.

pctech · Jan 19, 2011, 17:51:08

And the server component of one of the apps tends to crash out just when I've finished writing lengthy notes on a software issue but before I've moved off the record causing it to save.

Can be a real pain.

Rik · Jan 19, 2011, 17:51:47

I can imagine.