Lion

[Gary]

I saw somewhere (can't find the link now) that you need to be running, and hence have bought, a copy of Snow Leopard in order to install Lion.

So it seems it's really an upgrade, just as SL was.

At the price I don't mind not being able to buy a DVD, but not being able to burn my own might be a bit of a bugger

But with SL you could do a clean install still, no so with Lion, saying that it does say to "upgrade on day one" which you would have to be nuts to do, so maybe they will release it on DVD and USB drives (airbooks use those) in the end anyway. Thats how I am now reading it.

[Bill]

£20.99 from the App Store

There's a lot of heat on MacRumours about the download-only aspect, the suspicion is that Apple are keeping quiet about other options for the moment. Nothing new there

[pctech]

Lion is heavily cloud based from what I've read so probably won't be available on a DVD except with maybe a new mac?

[Steve]

I'm still running the iMac on the SL upgrade 2 years later,so I'm not too worried.However if it creates a restore partition there may be an option for a clean install once the primary install has been done. I think Apple would like to get rid of the file storage sytem but that's great for most countries apart from us with medieval broadband speeds.

[pctech]

I wouldn't be that happy with all my data sitting on a software company's servers, I want to have the choice to who provides this service or to not use it.

[Bill]

I'd go along with that, plus I don't want BT between me and my data and nor do I fancy what it would do to my download allowance.

Something tells me I may not be an early adopter of Lion...

[pctech]

Only I want sitting on a server is my email and I may take up Zen's remote backup if I end up getting FTTP.

[Rik]

I'd still find it hard to trust a third party with my data.

[Glenn]

It might be a roaring success 

[pctech]

its protected with Blowfish 256-bit encryption and only I have the key and they are a decent company, as are IDNet.

[Rik]

It might be a roaring success 

[Glenn]

 

[Bill]

Have you no pride? 

[Rik]

No, but he's got a bar.

[Glenn]

Have you no pride? 

In the mane, no.

[.Griff.]

It might be a roaring success 

It could be a cat-astrophe.

[Rik]

That's a each.

[Glenn]

 

[Technical Ben]

A separate 4GB download for every machine isn't going to be popular with individuals/organisations using multiple Macs... I'll wait and see.

Organizations use multiple macs? I thought Macs were only for the CEO so he felt important, while the IT team kept to Linux, and palmed of old Windows thin clients to the workers?         

[pctech]

Lot of our web designers at work use Macs and simply won't use Windows.

Looks like I'll be going on some Mac technical support training soon.

[Technical Ben]

But they are web designers, so they don't count. 

(The web being made in a universal language/system means you can use any type of computer. Where as specialist programs may only be available for Mac, Windows or Linux, and not the other.)

[pctech]

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/

Just watched the keynote, Apple won't be supplying it on a DVD at all.

[Technical Ben]

4gb flash card?
I just don't like being so limited to my system of delivery.
Even Steam allows me to backup all content to DVD/HDD. 

[lozcart]

You don't really need a back up DVD of the OS because if you do need a new copy for any reason you will be able to download another copy free of charge as long as it's installed on a machine logged into your Apple account.

[Bill]

Another 4GB of bandwidth used... and however long it takes to d/l it as opposed to the few seconds to mount a DVD...