IPv6 Protocol

Ardua · Nov 13, 2011, 11:54:42

My router is IPv6 compatible. Is the IDNet IPv6 provision Native IPv6 or does the connection have to be established using an IPv6 to 4 tunnel? Thanks.

Rik · Nov 13, 2011, 11:59:20

Sorry, no idea, but others will have.

.Griff. · Nov 13, 2011, 12:00:55

I thought it was native but I could be wrong.

Ardua · Nov 13, 2011, 12:17:19

Quote from: .Griff. on Nov 13, 2011, 12:00:55
I thought it was native but I could be wrong.

Thanks Guys. With a little bit of 'Google is my friend', I think that I now understand what is going on. The router log shows a IPv6 connection with an IP address; however, when I run an IPv6 test it comes up as IPv4 only. It would seem that I need to use parts of the IP address to set up a Local Host - unfortunately, Google translation of German websites only adds to my confusion.

Steve · Nov 13, 2011, 12:17:35

It's native IPv6 there's at least two of us using IPv6 on the 7800N

Rik · Nov 13, 2011, 12:31:43

Interestingly, you still show an IPv4 address in the forum, Steve.

Simon · Nov 13, 2011, 12:33:28

Presumably, that's because the forum isn't IPv6 compatible yet?

Rik · Nov 13, 2011, 12:35:01

Well, that's the interesting question, isn't it - what happens when only an IPv6 address has been issued...

Steve · Nov 13, 2011, 12:36:44

That's because the router provides both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses to the client - Dual Stack. I would not be able to access this site via IPv6 as it has no IPv6 address

Steve · Nov 13, 2011, 12:40:35

Smf is not IPv6 compatible, if this site had an IPv6 address I would show as 0,0,0,0 I believe. Most browsers preferentially connect via IPv6 if it is available.

Ardua · Nov 13, 2011, 13:40:58

Now look what I have started

Rik · Nov 13, 2011, 15:33:18

Bill · Nov 13, 2011, 18:41:46

Quote from: Ardua on Nov 13, 2011, 12:17:19The router log shows a IPv6 connection with an IP address; however, when I run an IPv6 test it comes up as IPv4 only.

Unless you've also enabled IPv6 on the computer then that's how it will seem... there's no NAT (usually) on IPv6 so an IPv6 connection is made to the IP of the computer, not to the router as in IPv4.

You'll need to enable IPv6 on all PCs that you want to be IPv6-capable, the router will dish out addresses using DHCP from the (slightly huge) pool that IDNet provide.

If you're using Windows then someone else will have to explain how to enable v6, I use a Mac!!

Ardua · Nov 13, 2011, 20:10:11

Quote from: Bill on Nov 13, 2011, 18:41:46
Unless you've also enabled IPv6 on the computer then that's how it will seem... there's no NAT (usually) on IPv6 so an IPv6 connection is made to the IP of the computer, not to the router as in IPv4.

You'll need to enable IPv6 on all PCs that you want to be IPv6-capable, the router will dish out addresses using DHCP from the (slightly huge) pool that IDNet provide.

If you're using Windows then someone else will have to explain how to enable v6, I use a Mac!!

Bill

Thanks. I am exclusively Mac. I have an IPv6 router address showing in my router log. I have now looked at the Apple Support guide on IPv6 enabling but I am still confuses ( a function of advancing years). What do I use for the IPv6 address, router address and prefix length (received from your network administrator or ISP)? Many thanks.

Steve · Nov 13, 2011, 20:19:12

On SL and Lion (as I'm not using TBB BQM with IPv6) my IPv6 address is set to automatic via network preferences.

Bill · Nov 13, 2011, 20:52:40

@ Ardua:

As Steve says, just set it to automatic in netprefs and let it get on with it.

I actually use fixed v6 IPs on the iMac and MacBook, but I cheated to set them... as long as they were fixed I didn't care what they were, so I got them from IDNet using "automatic" and used those values to fill in the slots for "manual"- worked a treat

Steve · Nov 13, 2011, 21:22:15

I found this http://www.internode.on.net/support/guides/internet_access/ipv6/avm_fritz!box/

mervl · Nov 22, 2011, 10:01:26

I've been (slowly) acclimatising to the vagaries of a Fritz!Box and IPv6 compatibility is one of its treats. However, I assume using IPv6 is likely to give me trouble with the banking and (not the majors) shopping sites (and Citrix remote access software) I rely on, and kick off my more ancient Nokia and Blackberry semi-smartphones and one ancient XP laptop (rest are Vista with use TCP/IP over IPv6 already ticked, so seem OK), and it's therefore a

-no until I have to?

Lance · Nov 22, 2011, 10:17:48

As long as you don't go ipv6 only you'll be fine. I think all routers at the moment offer dual stack do that if you go to a website which is ipv4 only there isn't a problem. Likewise for devices which only support ipv4.

mervl · Nov 22, 2011, 10:43:19

Thanks, for any other Fritz!Box users, found this: http://www.avm.de/en/Extern/files/ipv6/IPv6_Technical_Note_en.pdf

Ardua · Nov 22, 2011, 13:39:22

Quote from: mervl on Nov 22, 2011, 10:43:19
http://www.avm.de/en/Extern/files/ipv6/IPv6_Technical_Note_en.pdf

Mervl

What IPv6 FB7390 settings are you using please? I have tried just about every combination and whilst I can get an IPv6 IP address (as shown in 7390 log), I cannot get a connection. I am using Mac OSX Lion and Automatic is set in the appropriate box in Network Settings. Many thanks.

mervl · Nov 22, 2011, 14:53:12

Ardua

You're one better than me as I can't get an IPv6 address: mine comes up with "IPv6 internet connection error Prefix assignment with error because of 0" which I assume is an unspecified fault. What are your IPv6 settings?

Ardua · Nov 22, 2011, 15:52:43

Quote from: mervl on Nov 22, 2011, 14:53:12
Ardua

You're one better than me as I can't get an IPv6 address: mine comes up with "IPv6 internet connection error Prefix assignment with error because of 0" which I assume is an unspecified fault. What are your IPv6 settings?

IPv6 Enabled plus Native IPv6 and the other recommended settings. Once Apply is selected, the box re-boots and I get an IPv6 IP address in the System Log but the IPv6 button (under the IPv4 button) does not show an IPv6 connection. I confess that I am now more confused about IPv6 than I was a week ago!!

mervl · Nov 22, 2011, 17:10:10

Sorry for adding to the confusion.

Same settings and result here, with the exception that my FB doesn't reboot on Apply (only re-authenticates) and I don't get an IPv6 address. I've now rebooted manually but it made no difference. I have the "unlit" IPv6 button on the homepage, so it looks as though the router is set up.

I do wonder from another post above, though, if it takes several hours for IDNet's server to issue the IPv6 address? We're thinking it's a router problem, but could it be a problem at IDNet's end with the issue and authentication of new IPv6 addresses?* I see from whirlpool.au that others have reported the same log report; but there's nothing about what to do about it, as far as I can see.

*EDIT: could this be worth thinking about, I noted that TBB's tester reported several timeouts when checking IDNet's IPv6 compatibility?

mervl · Nov 22, 2011, 20:24:16

Ardua: No responses here, so I've sent an e-mail to IDnet support tonight asking them to let me have manual IPv6 settings for my account. I'll let you know how I get on.