Windows 10 Upgrade

Clive · Sep 22, 2016, 13:01:51

Last night's Win 10 update was terrifyingly big and just went on and on. I thought my machine was broken. Well it is because it's foretelling a hard drive failure but it's a ten year old Dell so I can't really complain. I just need to get Thunderbird e-mails off it and that looks easier said than done. Acronis which is installed on it doesn't seem to work too good with Win 10.

Simon · Sep 22, 2016, 14:43:10

I'm pretty sure they gave Windows 10 away because they would have been sued to high heaven if they had asked for money for it, as it's clearly not fit for purpose. The price for allowing your machine to be infected with it, however, is far greater than the cost of a proper operating system.

zappaDPJ · Sep 22, 2016, 17:44:52

I'm not having a particularly good experience with Windows 10 to put it mildly. Although speed isn't an issue for me, just about everything else is. Unfortunately rolling back is really not an option so I'm going to have to live with it

Den · Sep 22, 2016, 19:38:10

It was not Microsoft that decided to do the update at the same time as your antivirus change it was you (I did the same and it took for ever). The lesson learned was if you want to update a program check that something else is not waiting in the wings.

I hated Bullguard Security Software so I changed to Kaspersky and my computer seems to run a lot better.

I have always moved up to the next operating system and sometimes it's fine and sometimes not but I think Windows 10 is the best yet and I like the thought that instead after a couple of years they will want to move me to Windows 11 they will keep improving Windows 10.

So I say stick with it Simon why change back to a system that will become outdated very soon.

Clive · Sep 22, 2016, 21:49:06

I think Den is right. I'm forced to keep one of my machines on Win 7 as it won't update whatever method I try. And I've tried them all. Most of my software has been compatible apart from Acronis and Java for which I have a use. Something to do with live sheep cams I believe.

Simon · Sep 22, 2016, 23:36:40

Quote from: Den on Sep 22, 2016, 19:38:10
It was not Microsoft that decided to do the update at the same time as your antivirus change it was you (I did the same and it took for ever). The lesson learned was if you want to update a program check that something else is not waiting in the wings.

But why should you have to do that? I want to do stuff on MY computer at MY convenience, not when Microsoft decides to allow me to use it for a while! Windows Updates should be able to detect when the machine is in use, and back off until such time as resources are freed, and the updates won't have such an impact on what the user is doing.

As it happens, Kaspersky was the one I tried and didn't like, as it's not compatible with my browser (which isn't Microsoft!), so I'm using Bitdefender at the moment, but it's no quicker at firing up than F-Secure, so I will be going back to that in due course, especially as I get it for free.

colirv · Sep 25, 2016, 19:53:08

Quote from: Simon on Sep 22, 2016, 23:36:40
I want to do stuff on MY computer at MY convenience, not when Microsoft decides to allow me to use it for a while!

So buy Windows 10 Pro, which IIRC allows you to install the updates at your convenience.

Clive · Sep 25, 2016, 20:17:26

Yes it does. That's why I bought it.

Simon · Sep 26, 2016, 00:08:57

I've got what Windows 8.1 upgraded to. I'm not sure if that's the Pro version or not. After three days, the Anniversary edition has finally finished downloading (2.8Gb!!), and took an hour to install. It kept most of my settings intact, but it did revert my fonts to the defaults, and Windows Defender seems to want to start a fight with my installed anti-virus, but other than that, at least the machine is operational now.

Den · Sep 26, 2016, 07:47:05

Go to Control Panel, then system and security, then system and it will show the version you have.

Clive · Sep 26, 2016, 10:39:33

It was definitely the Mother of all Updates!

zappaDPJ · Sep 27, 2016, 05:30:16

Quote from: Clive on Sep 26, 2016, 10:39:33
It was definitely the Mother of all Updates!

I think I just got it. It took the best part of an hour to update and saw fit to restore a large number of default settings

Simon · Sep 27, 2016, 09:37:55

"We" know best, Zap.

Clive · Sep 27, 2016, 10:03:50

This is the big problem - it always resets to the default settings which allow Microsoft to spy on you and deluge you with adverts.

zappaDPJ · Sep 27, 2016, 13:33:33

Even worse, Cortana has just risen from the dead

Simon · Sep 27, 2016, 15:58:02

You may find these useful:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-4-windows-10

http://www.privacyprotectiontool.com/

zappaDPJ · Sep 27, 2016, 17:09:03

I'll take a look although these days I assume everyone knows my preferences for peanut butter and rubber.

Simon · Sep 27, 2016, 19:56:20

Did we really need to know that?

Clive · Sep 28, 2016, 15:55:08

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Sep 27, 2016, 13:33:33
Even worse, Cortana has just risen from the dead

Some garlic and a cross worked for me Zap.

zappaDPJ · Sep 28, 2016, 16:51:45

Glenn · Sep 30, 2016, 08:30:40

Have a read http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10

Ray · Sep 30, 2016, 09:17:16

Unfortunately that seems to have now changed in the current version.

Simon · Oct 04, 2016, 16:06:02

Another huge update this afternoon, which practically disabled my computer while it was downloading and installing. This really is becoming a joke.

zappaDPJ · Oct 04, 2016, 17:26:45

Someone else was complaining about this one yesterday. True to form I've not had it yet.

Simon · Oct 04, 2016, 18:22:10

It might not be quite so bad if there was some sort of notification to tell you that an update is happening, as then you'd at least know why your machine is suddenly incapacitated. Or, even better, an option to delay it (once it has started downloading), so you could at least finish what you were doing.