Cables

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[Azazel]

if anyone else is looking to do this get the sheilded Cat5e or Cat6 with LSOH (low smoke zero halogen) that is the higest quality of cable which will give the best quality signal transmission.

[Ann]

Too late for advice now    I got up early this morning to change the wiring about, plugged it all in and got... exactly the same synch speed as before.  So well worth the money then!  Ack.  Still it got the monster router out the way.  Can't shut the living room door now though, needs some attention.  It's lucky I don't have a nagging wife, that's all I can say.

[Rik]

There may be an improvement tonight, Ann, that's when noise is most prevalent.

[MoHux]

So you'll be on a staple diet tonight then, Ann.

You're asking for a clipped ear! 

[Rik]

I just wanted to nail the pun early, Mo.

[MoHux]

I just wanted to nail the pun early, Mo.

From the lack of further response, I'd say you didn't hammer it home hard enough Rik! 

[Rik]

 

Or I lacked punch?

[MoHux]

 

[Sebby]

Too late for advice now    I got up early this morning to change the wiring about, plugged it all in and got... exactly the same synch speed as before.  So well worth the money then!  Ack.  Still it got the monster router out the way.  Can't shut the living room door now though, needs some attention.  It's lucky I don't have a nagging wife, that's all I can say.

It doesn't always improve sync, but what it should do is make your connection less prone to noise pickup.

[MoHux]

It doesn't always improve sync, but what it should do is make your connection less prone to noise pickup.

................... she already knew that Seb'

It's lucky I don't have a nagging wife, that's all I can say.

[Sebby]

 

I can't see the connection, Mo!

[Ann]

 

[plugwash]

Another vote for the longer LAN cable, Ann. Cat5e or Cat6

Even bog standard cat 5 is more than good enough for 100 megabit ethernet which is probablly the fasted your equipment supports and is more than fast enough to not be the bottleneck on an ADSL connection (hell with BT connections you can't even break the 10 megabit barrier)

As for shielded that really shouldn't be nessacery in a domestic or commercial environment and is only worth having at all if you can keep up the shield continuity for the entire connection.

[merlin]

do we have any electrical/electonic/radio experts.
as we only use two wires, (provided the ring wire etc have been disconnected) and that adsl is prone to picking up medium wave transmissions. what would be the effect of actually earthing the spare wires, by say a copper stake outside the house
would this reduce noise, etc

[Gary]

do we have any electrical/electonic/radio experts.
as we only use two wires, (provided the ring wire etc have been disconnected) and that adsl is prone to picking up medium wave transmissions. what would be the effect of actually earthing the spare wires, by say a copper stake outside the house
would this reduce noise, etc

Probably BT giving you grief for mucking around with their side of the wiring  I think earthing would not have much effect as that's mainly to help with electrical spikes rather than potential noise, but I am probably way off the mark on this one

[Rik]

I suppose it might have a marginal effect, reducing any crosstalk from the spare wires to the live pair, but it would be marginal. The key about removing the ring wire is it removes it from the circuit. The best solution would be more tightly twisted pairs and an insulating sheath, more or less what Cat5-6 achieves.

[Gary]

I suppose it might have a marginal effect, reducing any crosstalk from the spare wires to the live pair, but it would be marginal. The key about removing the ring wire is it removes it from the circuit. The best solution would be more tightly twisted pairs and an insulating sheath, more or less what Cat5-6 achieves.

Rik do you think that for lines with ADSL max, 2+ etc BT should rewire inside homes with long runs to the master socket with something like cat5? In our home we have a good thirty foot of wire circa 1970's from where it comes in from the window to the master socket, and all the best cabling in the world on my part wont help poor quality line on their side.

[Rik]

I think BT should run fibre to the home, Gary, but that isn't going to happen either.

[Gary]

I think BT should run fibre to the home, Gary, but that isn't going to happen either.

Not where I live ever, not even cable Rik it just occurs to me that since the wire runs though the kitchen around the houses etc to get to the master socket, all the best cabling on my end is really is going to make much difference if BT's cable is basically cr@p and picking up noise anyway

[Rik]

You're right, Gary, all we can do is minimise the impact of our own cabling on noise pickup, but once it's out the door...

[Gary]

You're right, Gary, all we can do is minimise the impact of our own cabling on noise pickup, but once it's out the door...

Its a shame you cant get something like a form of bonding agent that you can put over BT's internal wiring with a mastic gun that acts as a shield to noise, it would be so easy to protect cable runs internally then well that's one for the inventors 

[Rik]

I suppose an aluminium paint might work?

[Gary]

I suppose an aluminium paint might work?

That's possible or it could act like a giant aerial maybe? I suppose a small wire mesh like a mini faraday cage would do that you could clip over it as well, possibly something to test out, you never know it may be something that the Dragons Den would finance to help all the users with a bad snr if it could be proven to work

[Rik]

Another option would be ducting with a foil liner which could be earthed.