I have arrived

[Tina]

I am now a fully fledged Idnetter - I migrated about lunch time. I had a short time where i couldn't access either ISP, so put my new details in my router, came back and I was on.
I am so happy  Thanks to you all for your support through this process, and I looked forward to years of happy service

[Rik]

Great news, Diss.  How are your speeds looking?

[Tina]

They are good - but how do I find out all the stats to post like you all do ?  I am sooo happy. Does a static IP mean it doesn't change if I unplug my router? or is that the one where it does change?

[Ray]

Welcome to Idnet , Diss, enjoy.  

[Rik]

Static IPs are yours forever, Diss, it will never change while you are with IDNet. (FWIW, I've had far fewer attempts to probe my connection since I went static than I had when using dynamic IPs).

Kitz has instructions for getting the stats from most routers:

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.htm

and a BT speed test is always worthwhile as that reveals your profile:

http://test.speedtester.bt.com:50301/

[Tina]

hehe my router isn't on there. will try the BT test

[Rik]

There's not too many she hasn't got, but I think you have one of them. When I Googled, I couldn't come up with more than a sales site, no manuals at all. The BT test will tell us sync speed, profile and throughput. We'll have to try and guess attenuation and noise margin.

[Tina]

lol your talking jargon to me now - tried the BT one five times and got this



Unexpected result received when querying the network to find your services connection details. Please try again shortly, but if this problem persists raise the issue with your service provider

[Rik]

It may be that your details haven't propagated across the BT network yet, or that the speed tester is just plain busy.

Try:

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/

or

http://www.speedtest.net/

in the interim.

[Rik]

For comparison, I get:



on a 3000 profile

[Tina]

Ok dunno if this means anything to you

Download Speed:     1931 kbps (241.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed:    376 kbps (47 KB/sec transfer rate)

[Rik]

That suggests you are on a 2000 profile, which is quite normal for your migration (LLU). Depending on the line stats which we don't know, hopefully that will rise after 3-5 days.

[Tina]

It does seem faster than before - but it's all ok?

[Malc]

Unexpected result received when querying the network to find your services connection details. Please try again shortly, but if this problem persists raise the issue with your service provider

Welcome to the BT Speedtest,

and   to IDNet

[Rik]

OK, update, Diss:

Your sync speed is 7616, attenuation is 25db and noise margin a whopping 16db, so you have a very healthy line there (I'm jealous!). Your profile should increase to 6500k after 3-5 days.

I'll be round to connect!!

[Tina]

Ok I really don't  understand all of those figures , but take it it's good - how did you find it out? You can come round only if you put up a blind for me in return 

[Rik]

By comparison, Diss, I sync around 3500, my attenuation is 56db and my target noise margin is 9db. IOW, a long, poor quality line. I'm guessing that as your line settles, you may well hit full speed.

As to finding out, well I know a man who knew, so I asked.

I'm great at putting blinds up, btw, it's just that they don't hang very straight afterwards.

[Tina]

I am still lost with those figures . I just know I am a very happy person right now   

[Rik]

OK, let's try and shed some illumination...

Attenuation is a measure of how much the ADSL signal has 'weakened' in its journey to you, effectively it tells you how long your line is, about 2.5k/1.5miles in your case. This figure is the single biggest factor in how fast your connection will go, ie the sync speed and profile are effectively determined by attenuation. Profiles are, in fact, an artificial control, imposed by BT to suit their own ends. It's perfectly possible for your line to go as fast as it can sync, but BT don't operate like that.

The other determining factor on speed is noise margin. This is the amount of 'headroom' the router has in distinguishing the signal from the background noise. Normally, with Max, it's set at 6db and then the line syncs at the highest speed it can do with that margin. If the line proves unstable, then the sync speed will be reduced, or the target margin increased, until stability is achieved.

You have some noise margin in hand, so your line will either be very stable, or possibly get a bit faster yet.

[Malc]

Hmmm, I'm learning as well,  Rik

[Lance]

Glad the migration went well, dissonance 

[Philip]

welcome to paradise 

[cavillas]

welcome dissonance.  Hope you enjoy it on IDNET and here as long as you have a sense of humour

[RA-1972]

Welcome hope you have a great time here . 

[Noreen]

Diss!