Acronis TI v10 and Vista

[Noreen]

Rightly or wrongly I've ordered Acronis TI v10 for my new Vista laptop under the impression that it had fewer problems than v11. Having done that (it's not received yet) I've now read of SOME people having to use a Vista DVD to start the computer after a restore from Acronis TI v10. The problem is that I haven't got one. As I understand it even though the TI v10 boot CD can see all the drives etc and validate them OK but you may still a Vista DVD to get your computer going. I'm worried that in an emergency I could do a successful restore but then be unable to get my computer going. In these circumstances I can't afford to do a trial restore.

Has anyone any experience of this, maybe even made an actual restore?  Believe that Lance said that he's using Vista and TI v10.   

[Rik]

Does the lappy not allow you to make a DVD, Noreen?

[Sebby]

I'm sure it will, Rik, but it's unlikely to work like an original Vista disc. It will be some kind of recovery disc, and these rarely work the same as the original OS disc.

Noreen, what exactly is it that you may need the Vista DVD to do?

[Steve]

Noreen

TI 10 restore vista link

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=171579 post #4

It appears it does work ,however only under certain scenarios you will need a vista DVD

I use TI10 and have gone back again to vista but not tried a full restore yet

[Noreen]

Sebby, if you read the link to the Wilders forum that Steve gave you'll see what this is about, I can't pretend that I really understand it all but the possibility of a restore failing does alarm me. That thread was one of those that I had previously read. However I do ONLY make full drive (all partitions) backups and that's all I've ever done on my previous XP machine with TI v9 but I never had to do a restore, that of course is not the same as an "image".

I've got an idea that I'll end up getting TI v11 as I really don't want to have to worry about this and my confidence in it is somewhat shattered now.  

[Steve]

I will let you know more later this evening. As I have a copy of vista on DVD, just performing a full disk backup using TI 10 and will then restore.

[Noreen]

Thanks Steve.

I also found this although it doesn't help me or anyone else in my situation. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/2ca4f65f-a63d-4a73-9d35-15b32d6cdc321033.mspx

[Sebby]

I just had a read of that thread, Noreen. What I would suggest is that you contact Acronis and make sure they're aware of the issue, and I would have thought a program update will follow. I appreciate that at the moment that's not a great comfort, but I can't imagine they'd leave this issue unfixed for very long.

[Rik]

If you ever had a problem, Noreen, I could lend you a Vista DVD to get you booted.

[Noreen]

I just had a read of that thread, Noreen. What I would suggest is that you contact Acronis and make sure they're aware of the issue, and I would have thought a program update will follow. I appreciate that at the moment that's not a great comfort, but I can't imagine they'd leave this issue unfixed for very long.

There IS a program update, Sebby, it's TI v11 however that also has some different problems for some people.

Thanks, Rik. I'll bear that in mind.

Incidentally I've just found this http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/

[Rik]

That could provide a solution, Noreen.

[Sebby]

Sorry, Noreen, I didn't mean a new version, I meant an update for the existing v10. At the moment, the latest update for v10 is build 4942, but the problem in the thread you posted earlier was using this build.

[Noreen]

That could provide a solution, Noreen.

When searching for info about this I saw a recommended free program specifically for burning ISO stuff to CDs which it was suggested could be used for this. I notice that on the end of the download link for the Vista recovery disc it says "torrent", isn't that a special downloading program? I don't have it if it is.

Sebby, I supposed that they solved the problem in v11. Doesn't solve the startup/recovery disc problem though. I've read that in the beta versions of Vista SP1 there was a facility to create such a disc but MS removed it in the final release of SP1.

[Sebby]

You'll need a BitTorrent application to download it, Noreen. I use uTorrent myself. Once installed, you should be able to click a torrent link and the download should start in uTorrent.

Be careful what you download, though, as it might not always be what it claims to be.

[Noreen]

This is all getting so complicated.

[Rik]

Anyone running torrents feel able to download this and burn Noreen a disc?

[Sebby]

I could do it.

[Rik]

Thanks, Sebby. Noreen, do you want to PM Sebby with your address?

[Sebby]

It's completely up to you, Noreen. I'd be happy to do it for you and send it on.

[Noreen]

Thanks Sebby, I'll PM you.

[Noreen]

Oh dear! Does this sound like the same problem with v11? http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=205362

[Rik]

It sounds a bit different, Noreen, as no-one has mentioned reaching for the Vista disc. The description is much more of the kind of issues I used to find with v8 and XP, where I had to input quite a string of commands to get it working.

[Noreen]

I also found this http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=173214

[Rik]

It sounds like the same issue, Noreen, though I would hope that Acronis had a fix by now.

[Steve]

Noreen

TI v10 build 4942

Having made a complete backup of laptop drive c: with a single partition containing vista SP1.I then managed to completely restore disk 1 (MBR and c:) using the bootable rescue media. Windows then started normally without the use of the vista DVD.