networking

Rik · Apr 15, 2008, 19:15:34

If you look in Device Manager, what details do you have for the driver on the NIC, Baz?

somanyholes · Apr 15, 2008, 19:20:08

as sebby has said mate

ipconfig /all

make sure there is a space between ipconfig and the word /all

if that doesn't work, are you using windows 98

if so type in winipcfg select the network card and you should have some information

Sebby · Apr 15, 2008, 19:23:03

Sorry if this is patronising, but are you pressing enter after you've typed it? Just to be sure.

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:23:13

driver date 1.7.2001

version 5.398.613.2003

and the location on HD

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:24:34

Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 15, 2008, 19:20:08
as sebby has said mate

ipconfig /all

make sure there is a space between ipconfig and the word /all

if that doesn't work, are you using windows 98

if so type in winipcfg select the network card and you should have some information

on XP tried without and with space

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:25:43

Quote from: Sebby on Apr 15, 2008, 19:23:03
Sorry if this is patronising, but are you pressing enter after you've typed it? Just to be sure.

yes .....dont get me thinking that way Sebby, will get me in daft mode

think I have missed something stupid

somanyholes · Apr 15, 2008, 19:28:38

scratches head ...

i've never know it not work, don't take this the wrong way mate but you are typing

ipconfig not ipcomfig as i have done before, are you logged on as an administrator? the command really should work after pressing enter

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:29:57

do you mean try it on the suspect system or mine downstairs that is working
just tried it on mine and only get info about my system anyhoos

LesD · Apr 15, 2008, 19:32:57

Quote from: Baz on Apr 15, 2008, 19:25:43
yes .....dont get me thinking that way Sebby, will get me in daft mode think I have missed something stupid

I am in daft mode reading this and may have missed it if you have covered it already but two or three things are bothering me.
1) I am not sure whether the LAN you are trying to get to work is a plug-in PCI type LAN card or a built into the mobo "on-board" LAN.
2) If by some chance you have both, to use the PCI one I would go into the BIOS and disable the "on-board one just to eliminate it.
3) If you are using an "on-board" built into the mobo LAN is it enabled in the BIOS because having had Wireless up and running before it just might not be?

Sorry if this has been covered already but if it has I have missed it!

Rik · Apr 15, 2008, 19:34:00

What does happen with an ipconfig /all on your own machine, Baz? Can you test the cable on your machine (I don't think it's the cable, but just to be sure...)? What exactly did you delete when removing the wireless connection?

And what Les said.

somanyholes · Apr 15, 2008, 19:35:29

download this

http://www.imgsrv.worldstart.com/download/WXP-IPConfig.hta

save it to disk

run it and click on full information, then ok, then give us the output

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:36:31

Quote from: LesD on Apr 15, 2008, 19:32:57
I am in daft mode reading this and may have missed it if you have covered it already but two or three things are bothering me.
1) I am not sure whether the LAN you are trying to get to work is a plug-in PCI type LAN card or a built into the mobo "on-board" LAN.
2) If by some chance you have both, to use the PCI one I would go into the BIOS and disable the "on-board one just to eliminate it.
3) If you are using an "on-board" built into the mobo LAN is it enabled in the BIOS because having had Wireless up and running before it just might not be?

Sorry if this has been covered already but if it has I have missed it!

1)on board

3) enabled in BIOS

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:39:03

Quote from: Rik on Apr 15, 2008, 19:34:00
What does happen with an ipconfig /all on your own machine, Baz? Can you test the cable on your machine (I don't think it's the cable, but just to be sure...)? What exactly did you delete when removing the wireless connection?

And what Les said.

on my machine I get a result Rik. to try the cable do I need to shut down to remove it or not.

I just unplugged the wireless adapter it is a USB one but there is no entry in Network Connections for it since unplugging

Rik · Apr 15, 2008, 19:41:55

Quote from: Baz on Apr 15, 2008, 19:39:03
on my machine I get a result Rik. to try the cable do I need to shut down to remove it or not.

No, you can hot plug an ethernet cable.

QuoteI just unplugged the wireless adapter it is a USB one but there is no entry in Network Connections for it since unplugging

No software changes, then? Did you re-boot?

I have to leave you now, Sue, dinner and a rugby match are calling. Good luck.

LesD · Apr 15, 2008, 19:42:45

Quote from: Baz on Apr 15, 2008, 19:36:31
1)on board

3) enabled in BIOS

That's good. I have suffered a dead on board LAN port.
When the ethernet cable is plugged in to the router/switch and the on board LAN port do you see the LED's by the sockets light up. If not there is a hardward problem. I know this has been said before but no lights no connection.

I concur with somanyholes I have never known ipconfig /all not to work but I have only got experience with XP Pro. Is yours Pro or Home? Home may need some extra network bits and pieces installing but I don't know if this is the case or not.

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:43:33

yes re boot many times.

many thanks for every ones help, I too need to go now so will try all the suggestions tomorrow and let you know how I get on.

Thanks again guys

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 19:45:02

yes lights on back of board near socket. XP home

Rik · Apr 15, 2008, 19:45:27

I'm just wondering if the dongle had some software installed which is still 'sitting on' the networking?

LesD · Apr 15, 2008, 20:24:56

Quote from: LesD on Apr 15, 2008, 19:42:45
Home may need some extra network bits and pieces installing but I don't know if this is the case or not.

I do know now after a bit of Googling and ipconfig should work in both XP Home and Pro.

Bill Gates he says so here: 8)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314850
and I quote:
The Syntax and Options for Using the Ipconfig Diagnostic Utility for Network Connections
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APPLIES TO
• Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
• Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition

Steve · Apr 15, 2008, 20:37:29

I ask this question out of ignorance, what would you get from ipconfig if TCP/IP been removed or box not ticked?

LesD · Apr 15, 2008, 20:44:54

Quote from: stevethegas on Apr 15, 2008, 20:37:29
I ask this question out of ignorance, what would you get from ipconfig if TCP/IP been removed or box not ticked?

Good question Steve, I don't know!
This has to be the next thing for Baz to check.
No TCP/IP no connection but whether the ipconfig command stops working is anybodies guess.
ipconfig /? gives all the help syntax stuff so you would think this should work but maybe not.

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 21:51:52

tried uninstalling the wireless adapter spftware, re boot and tried the cable again. still no connection.

tried the cable in my system downstairs and it picked it up straight away and connected. unfortunately am back to square one as my son need to use hi system so we installed the software again. even tried a different port on the router, no luck.

Am starting to think its router related somehow but dont know what, been through all the settings on router and cant see anything obvious.

Sebby · Apr 15, 2008, 21:52:36

We really need to know if the PC is getting an IP, Baz.

Baz · Apr 15, 2008, 22:18:27

sorry Sebby will have to leave it till tomorrow as its back on wireless now. Not that it will help any but it does get an address when on wireless

somanyholes · Apr 16, 2008, 07:33:15

tcp/ip is working as he can ping his loopback address or 127.0.0.1.

i really don't think you need to do this but the command to reset tcp/ip is

netsh int ip reset log.txt