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Simon

#75
Apr 21, 2008, 10:02:15
I only did it once, Rik, and it started up when I hit the power button, then after literally a couple of seconds, it died, then about five seconds after that, it came to life again, and got to the POST beep.  I didn't have it connected to a monitor at the time, so switched it off again after watching it run for a minute or two, and haven't tried again since.
Simon.
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Steve

#76
Apr 21, 2008, 12:24:39 Last Edit: Apr 21, 2008, 12:36:25 by stevethegas
Simon If you are using the ip35 pro there is an LED on the board which scrolls through the codes as it boots the last is FF. When I  built mine on Thursday I failed to push fully home the graphics card and it stuck at 9.9 it also dual booted then. With regard to the firewire port you should be able to attach it safely if required, the video card may foul the cable but not the connector. The video card needs its own power supply (mine uses two).If you have the traditional power connectors on your drives you can use those instead of the SATA power cables. The processor you fitted should clock to 3.2GHz safely but probably wise not use the stock fan and heat sink.Lastly in bios you need to select the PCI express slot as first graphics card everything else is straightforward.

Edit: Sorry i missed the earlier bit, as no extra power required for your video card.but I presmue therefore that the additional PCI power lead may have to be connected to the board?
Steve
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Simon

#77
Apr 21, 2008, 12:34:01
Hi Steve,

It's not the Pro version as far as I know.

The firewire connector actually prevents the video card from seating properly, even with squashing the wires down. 

I'll find out for certain if the video card needs power this evening, hopefully, but it did get to the post beep without.   

Unfortunately, the SATA drives don't appear to have the other type of power connectors, but I will have another look, as that would solve the problem.
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Sebby

#78
Apr 21, 2008, 13:12:59
They won't, Simon, but I'd be surprised if the motherboard or PSU didn't come with a 4-pin molex to SATA power plug adaptor.

Gary

#79
Apr 21, 2008, 13:20:25
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 21, 2008, 13:12:59
They won't, Simon, but I'd be surprised if the motherboard or PSU didn't come with a 4-pin molex to SATA power plug adaptor.
That's true Sebby, most do, Im sure I may have a spare around in my "box of hell" I'm such a bits and pieces hoarder, my graphics card needs two seperate power supply connectors which surprised me :)
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Sebby

#80
Apr 21, 2008, 13:21:14
Same here, Gary. :)

Simon

#81
Apr 21, 2008, 13:50:59
It didn't come with any adapters, but those are just what I need, so thanks for the idea!  Will be going to PC shop after work for bits.
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Rik

#82
Apr 21, 2008, 14:33:45
It's only doing this so that you are more impressed when you finally boot it, Simon. :)
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Gary

#83
Apr 21, 2008, 14:50:33
Quote from: Rik on Apr 21, 2008, 14:33:45
It's only doing this so that you are more impressed when you finally boot it, Simon. :)
especially when it makes you a cuppa :thumb: hope it all works tonight ok
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Inactive

#84
Apr 21, 2008, 16:04:25
There's a lot to be said for buying a " ready made "..  ;D ;D :out: :duck:
Anything and everything that I post on here is purely my opinion, it ain't going to change the world, you are under no obligation to agree with me, it is purely my expressed opinion.

Rik

#85
Apr 21, 2008, 16:08:57
I always do - that way, someone else gets to sort out any incompatibilities for me. :)
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Malc

#86
Apr 21, 2008, 16:12:20
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 21, 2008, 16:04:25
There's a lot to be said for buying a " ready made "..  ;D ;D :out: :duck:

Not forgetting the 3 year warranty  ;)

Inactive

#87
Apr 21, 2008, 16:16:28
I do admire anyone that has the balls to make their own, and good luck to them, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be my " cup of tea ".

On overall balance, I don't think anyone actually saves any money by making their own.

....and how on earth do you ascertain if things are compatible?

To each his / her own. ;)
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Malc

#88
Apr 21, 2008, 16:18:33
I wish I knew how to, but these systems are quite cheap nowadays, your right In, I don't think you save much these days.

Sebby

#89
Apr 21, 2008, 16:30:05
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 21, 2008, 16:16:28
On overall balance, I don't think anyone actually saves any money by making their own.

....and how on earth do you ascertain if things are compatible?

I think it used to be cheaper many years ago, but it isn't anymore. That said, I wouldn't say it's more expensive...

Compatibility is quite easy. First, I choose my processor. Then, I choose a motherboard that can take that processor. Next, I choose some RAM that is compatible with the motherboard (RAM is generally the same for desktops these days, as sites like Crucial make it easier by telling you what RAM your motherboard accepts). With the other bits (hard drive, graphics card, etc) it's more a case of making sure you have the right connectors. For example, if you choose a PCI-E graphics card, you need to make sure your motherboard has a PCI-E slot. Similarly, if you choose a SATA hard drive, you need to ensure that the motherboard has SATA headers. :)

Rik

#90
Apr 21, 2008, 16:30:14
In the past I have built my own, but the savings were not significant and the risks were all mine. Provided I can find someone to build the box I want, eg Scan, then I prefer to get someone else to do the work these days.
Rik
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Inactive

#91
Apr 21, 2008, 16:37:12
Mine has a Satellite Tuner, a Freeview Tuner, a Scart connector, Firewire ports, USB Ports, Card slots etc. etc...I wouldn't have a clue how to connect that lot together. ??? ;)
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Rik

#92
Apr 21, 2008, 16:39:05
It's actually not that difficult, In. The mobo handbook has a diagram which maps all the connectors and most of them will only go in the right kind of socket. The hardest job is avoiding knitting a scarf while connecting everything.
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Sebby

#93
Apr 21, 2008, 16:42:30
It really isn't as hard as you might think, In. When I built my first PC, I had very little idea what I was doing, but things can only really go in one place. If you have a look inside a PC for a few minutes, it should make more sense. :)

Inactive

#94
Apr 21, 2008, 16:44:21
Quote from: Rik on Apr 21, 2008, 16:39:05
It's actually not that difficult, In.

I will take your word for it Rik.     ;) ;D
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Inactive

#95
Apr 21, 2008, 16:45:50
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 21, 2008, 16:42:30
. If you have a look inside a PC for a few minutes, it should make more sense. :)

I did, last week, when I changed the Graphics Card and added 2 memory modules, that was fearful enough for me. ;D
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Sebby

#96
Apr 21, 2008, 16:46:33
Ah, well you're half way there already then, In. :)

Baz

#97
Apr 21, 2008, 16:54:10
I believe most people could build one, as has been said the mobo manual helps a lot, plenty research online and here, watch someone else do it.

I started off doing the simple stuff like fitting CD drives, memory etc then just worked up. The thing what lets me down is trouble shooting software probs once you have the system built ;D

Sebby

#98
Apr 21, 2008, 16:56:52
Software problems can be a bit of a nuisance, but - like you say - with the internet it's often easy to find someone else who's had the same issue, along with a solution. :)

Malc

#99
Apr 21, 2008, 18:01:34
The bits I don't understand are:

How do you know the settings for the CPU in the BIOS, it's something to do with multipliers, isn't it?

Thermal paste, how do you know how much and if it's enough not to fry the chip.

Jumpers on HDs etc, how do you know which settings.

And thats for starters.
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