mac code and notice period

daveeyt · Aug 23, 2008, 06:06:33

due to my usage creeping up i am considering a move from IDNET and received my mac code yesterday.

if i do not use the MAC does everything remain as normal, i.e. ongoing service?

if i received my MAC mid billing cycle, when does my contract with iD net terminate........end billing period, 30 days from receipt from IDNET, or 30 days from presentation to new provider?

BTW love the service from IDNET, never had reason to complain and will continue to recommend.....but 60gig is limiting my usage

Rik · Aug 23, 2008, 08:54:04

If you don't use the MAC, everything continues as now.

If you do use it, your 30 day notice period started from when you requested it. IDNet are not suited to someone with your d/l requirements, possibly you'd do better with an Enta reseller.

Inactive · Aug 23, 2008, 08:56:46

Welcome to the Forum, even if it is probably a goodbye from yourself.

Good luck with whoever you choose as your new provider.

daveeyt · Aug 23, 2008, 09:42:35

Thanks for the clarification, and it pains me to move away as the service from these guys is excellent. Not looking forward to the nail biting session to see if the new provider works out well, particularly as I managed to get BT to swap my circuit last year taking me from a 1.5M to 4M profile.. The daunting aspect is i am going to take a lottery decision with a very respected LLU provider who offers 30 days to cool off if not happy.

Providing i keep my original circuit( don't see why not), and providing ADSL2 does not make my 51db attenuation, 6db noise margin line perform less than the 4.5M synch i get at the moment the unlimited d/load and no capping / throttling will be good.

any thoughts or advice, if it goes pear shaped i will be back here like a shot, comments please.

Rik · Aug 23, 2008, 09:47:24

It sounds like you're near the point where the two speed graphs converge, so you'll see only a small benefit from ADSL2+. I'm a little further along, with probably no benefit, while In will be screaming along.

Your circuit shouldn't be affected by the move, unless it's LLU, generally the migration is no more than a few strokes on a keyboard.

daveeyt · Aug 23, 2008, 09:53:01

Quote from: Rik on Aug 23, 2008, 09:47:24
Your circuit shouldn't be affected by the move, unless it's LLU, generally the migration is no more than a few strokes on a keyboard.

You probably guessed who its with but i am not going to advertise competitiors on ID forum. It is LLU but my understanding is the phone stays with BT. Is this hybrid LLU likely to affect my speed other than the lottery of ADSL2 speed on long line.

Rik · Aug 23, 2008, 09:56:11

No, it's just a shared metal path (ridiculous name!), ie BT still own the wires, they just rent the local loop to the ISP.

daveeyt · Aug 23, 2008, 09:57:45

two last questions

1. the LLU is ADSL2+ not ADSL 2 any amended comments

2. Is there a time period ban to come back to IDNET

Rik · Aug 23, 2008, 09:58:04

No and no.

Oh, and IDNet don't charge for LLU migrations, unlike some, though you will see some downtime both ways as, with LLU, there is a physical change at the exchange (though that's the only bit of your circuit that does change).

Inactive · Aug 23, 2008, 10:03:38

Quote from: daveeyt on Aug 23, 2008, 09:53:01
You probably guessed who its with but i am not going to advertise competitiors on ID forum.

Thanks, that is very considerate of you, I think we all know who you mean, but it is nice of you to not plaster it all over the forum.

Again, good luck with your move, pop back in and let us know how it goes.

Sebby · Aug 23, 2008, 11:59:13

All the best with the move. Ultimately, IDNet isn't always going to be for everyone.

gyruss · Aug 24, 2008, 13:04:09

On a purely selfish note.. thanks for freeing up some bandwidth

Inactive · Aug 24, 2008, 13:09:14

Quote from: gyruss on Aug 24, 2008, 13:04:09
On a purely selfish note.. thanks for freeing up some bandwidth

daveeyt · Sep 05, 2008, 20:20:45

Migration went Great, switch over instant with downtime < 1 minute, stats and synch are great and no IP profile to worry about.

Before
Uptime: 0 days, 8:30:25

Modulation: G.992.1 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 832 / 5,056

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.5 / 19.5

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 28.5 / 51.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 9.0 / 6.5

After
Uptime: 0 days, 0:16:51

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,109 / 5,249

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 18.0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 30.5 / 53.5

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.5 / 6.0

Of course, the big gains of LLU are when your sync is sitting just below an IPstream profile threshold.
So with my ADSL1 sync speed the other day (5056kps), i was just below the next step so I had a 4Meg Profile with a throughput of 3800. With an LLU sync you achieve a throughput of approx 85% of your immediate synch and you don't have to keep that sync for 5 days to get the higher throughput, its real time!!

However this is not to have ago at IDNET they are a great provider, its clearly a BT issue for introducing the guilty till proved innocent BRAS system, lets hope the 21CN works out for you all. ID net are a reliable and professional provider but didn't suit my usage....., lets hope tiscali don't snap them up.....good luck...BTW liked the comment re freeing up bandwidth LOL

Sebby · Sep 05, 2008, 20:50:27

There's no denying that LLU is far superior to BT at the moment. Enjoy Be.

Gary · Sep 05, 2008, 21:35:33

Quote from: Sebby on Sep 05, 2008, 20:50:27
There's no denying that LLU is far superior to BT at the moment. Enjoy Be.

I hope BT's offering will be as good as the LLU services Sebby, it will be a great move forward for the likes of IDNet, BE/O2 are good with the LLU service but you can't beat the personal touch, today I had to have a quick chat with James about my email DNS and it was sorted in minutes, if I could get that personal touch with the speeds and stability I have now it would be great